Crooked Lumpy Vessel

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  Were There Any Scriptures or Understandings That U Just Couldn't Comprehend

  by minimus in

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  i never could explain why god "allowed" solomon to have a number of wives and concubines yet he never even got a reprimand!

  or why birthdays are forbidden but anniverseries aren't.....what about you?

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  Samson's great strength in his hair. I tried growing and cutting my hair and found no difference.

  Number chapter 31 when Moses was charged to take vengence against the Midianites for having sexual relations with the Jewish men, thus losing favor with Jehovah. I mean, the men could not keep it in their pants and um...(why is it always the womans fault?) Anyway, the scripture continues at verse 17 where the men returned from battle with the women and children. Moses ordered the men to kill the baby boys and their mothers (non-virgins) but keep all the virgins so they could have sex with them later. Wasn't that how they got in trouble in the first place?

  Angels having sex with humans. Why would a spirit creature designed to be sexless want sex? Were they created with a sexual desire and told no...you cant have any?

  Hello!
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  MY BREAKFAST WITH A JW THIS MORNING

  by Terry in

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  johnny: "what do you mean?

  johnny: "they aren't!

  johnny: "yes?

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  Its amazing how a person can just believe in something without question. When I studied, I questioned things but I was only provided with biased WT rhetoric.

  I am glad to hear also that you did something besides work as a janitor or window washer. I heard some are starting to move towards the great career opportunities of landscaping.

  Thanks for sharing.
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  Recognizing God's choosen by their works/deeds? Good to see you all again

  by WingCommander in

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  greetings forum, long time no write.

  good to be back.

  recently, i've been thinking about a scripture that was tossed around a good bit in the jw congregations.

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  I love that example of the good Sumaritan. He was the one considered of the wrong or misled faith and he was the one helping, while God's (Judean) people walked by the poor guy.

  Most JWs are so busy doing 5 meetings a week, field service and study. There is no time to devote to anything else other than what the WT society says you can do. I also find the attitiude of most JWs to be of rude, angry frustration.

  A recent JW acquaintence of mine was relating to me a field service experience this morning. She came to the door of a handicapped woman of only one leg, in a wheelchair and in need of emergency medical care for her other leg. My friend called 911 and had her put in the hospital (being a good Sumaritan) and proceeded to ask some of the other sisters in her hall if they would be interested in helping her with cleaning the woman's house and providing some minimal care on her return home (maybe a dish or just a hello). Each sister respectfully declined to provide even minimal assistance. What wonderful christian love. I think they are only riding the wave of what they believe is the road to self preservation.
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  Why do animals die?

  by ezekiel3 in

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  as an animal lover, i have some questions jws have never dared to breach (according to a search of jw publications).

  if humans die because of inheriting adam and eve's sin, why do animals die?

  were animals created imperfect?.

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  Terry;

  I like it...A stegasaurus bugger.

  You kids must love it when you tell stories. Very colorful and full of food for thought.
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  Dinosaurs...What are your thoughts?

  by Crooked Lumpy Vessel in

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  the "why do animals die" thread got me thinking about the dinosaurs.

  why would god create a species of animals and then completely destroy them or allow them to be destroyed.

  would he do that to humans too?.

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  The "Why do Animals Die" thread got me thinking about the dinosaurs. Why would God create a species of animals and then completely destroy them or allow them to be destroyed. Would he do that to humans too?

  This could actually apply to any animal species that has become extinct because of the natural forces.
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  Why do animals die?

  by ezekiel3 in

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  as an animal lover, i have some questions jws have never dared to breach (according to a search of jw publications).

  if humans die because of inheriting adam and eve's sin, why do animals die?

  were animals created imperfect?.

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  Hey Exekial3: You ask the question what is the difference between humans and animals. I was always taught that being made in God's image is what makes us different, and sin is what makes us no better than the animals, hence we suffer the same fate. I dont know how true that statement is, after all I will only live for a short period of time in the never ending stream on knowledge and understanding. I imagine most of us will never know the truth about the origin of life and death. Maybe we cant handle the truth. :)

  Another interesting thread I would love to see is about dinosaurs. Why would God create a species of animals and then allow them to be destroyed. Obviously man did not destroy them. Maybe I will start that thread. I think I will.
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  I would love to see a 20/20 on the UN

  by Crooked Lumpy Vessel in

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  i was re-reading some of the old posts in the best of.... i was thinking....wouldnt it be great for this topic to appear on prime time.

  i really dont think many members are aware of this issue even to this day.

  i would like to see interviews with officials at the un and the wts.

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  I was re-reading some of the old posts in the best of...

  I was thinking....wouldnt it be great for this topic to appear on prime time. I really dont think many members are aware of this issue even to this day. I would like to see interviews with officials at the UN and the WTS. Obviously the letter the WTS published and the letter the UN published conflict with each other. It sure would make for some interesting dialog.

  The WTS is just waiting for this to "just go away".

  At present I think many JWs still go to the door and when confronted with the UN issue deny that it is even true. I know I would have until I found this website and did some of my own research. Which was taboo. I mean, when I was researching this topic on the internet, I felt as if I was doing something wrong, only because of being counseled over and over that the Interenet was full of lies. So there I was...researching truth....feeling guilty. Whats wrong with that picture?
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  Weird KH stories

  by Jez in

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  what is your weirdest experience at a kh?.

  one sunday, a kind older brother raised his hand to comment, all of a sudden, his foot shot out, he fell off his chair and started to shake.

  everyone was hushed and shocked.

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  The mental state of a JW is incredible.

  We are taught not to mourn excessively over a person so as to forget where we stand in the scheme of things. A sister in our congregation lost her baby girl at age 2. Another sister was commenting on how this sister's service time and meeting attendence dropped. I was like, "Didnt her baby die" and this pioneer sister snapped at me something like, "That was a couple of years ago". As if there was a time limit on grief. At the congregation level we are constantly being judged by our brothers and sisters.

  Obedience is the order of the day. Any deviation from what we are counseled on might cause excessive gossip or even counsel from a brother. It is fear of our brothers and sisters that keep us from being human, and fear of reprimand. Fear rules.

  You are right, our natural inclination to show love for one another and our fellow human is supressed and we are redressed/reconditioned to show love the WTS way, which is to not let anything stand in the way of field service recruitment.
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  What Was The Stupidest Rule In Your Hall?

  by minimus in

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  ....or even, "what's the stupidest organizational rule that you know of"?

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  Hi Mary,

  One thing I have always felt was missing with the JW's organization, is the lack of service to those in need of physical things.

  The only gifts of mercy and kindness that we are encouraged to give is to be more involved in the preaching work. Apparently the only gift we are suppose to give is to recruit more members to the WT$. In the last couple of years I started reaching out more to help those in the world who need physical things. It has not always been easy but it has been rewarding. I received my good share of critism and concern from others in the congregation. It only served to push me away further.

  One day I was driving home from work I listened to one of those "other religions". Anyway, the person hosting the program did make some good points with the following scripture Galations 5:22.

  On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law.

  I no longer let anybody in the congregation tell me how to express my love to fellow humans.

  Reminds me of a story about a brother whose biological sister was dying of cancer. She had less than a year to live and she asked her brother if he could raise her child after she died. Apparently he was the only one in her family associated with the organization and she wanted to make certain her child would be raised within these teachings. He told her no. His reason was that he would not be able to pioneer if he had to raise a child. What love!

  You just go ahead and enojoy your gifts to man. Remember God says there is no law against such things.
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  Conventions - Money for the locals The reason newspapers write positive

  by DaCheech in

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  http://www.rrstar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20040728/business04/407280320/1002

  "a five-weekend jehovah's witness convention at the metrocentre, which started earlier this month, is expected to draw about 32,000 visitors and generate $1.8 million"

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  Crooked Lumpy Vessel

  I think that he means they anticipate 32,000 over the next 5 weekends. The Conventions I attended usually had over 8,000 in attendence. Multiply that by 5 and you get about 40,000.

  Who gets the 1.8 million?